why is it that other shapers that are making thise type of boards call there boards the same model as boards shaped and ridden over 40 years prior...(such as death board or jaws for example) seems odd and not very creative..... whats your take on this and what do your readers think.... personally i think its bullshit...
let's see. prior to that hull article in the journal there were 4 people i know of making hulls.liddle, two of his former employees and friends, tony and PG, and under the guise of PG, spence. they all kind of "borrowed" from one another-the hull tribe was a smaller, tightly knit crew then- so in a way it made sense. with that said ,they all had a knack for naming boards they built but never did they "borrow" anmae from another. rather, they kept it all very individual and to the board and rider of the board.
post article it seemed a LOT of people jumped on the hull bandwagon, not only "borrowing" from the core hull shapers,their templates, ideas and seemingly board names, but trying to become the next hull maestro-overnight.(lest they forget it took 40 plus years of riding and shaping these hulls to their current refinement which they are now using to their advantage.) unreal. one youngster even claiming to be the next greenough, replicating every hull he could. to his credit he at least has unique names for his boards.
in the scheme of things, as in nature, it will be the survival of the fittest( or perhaps in this case, the most experienced). people will ride various boards and from that will weed out the pretenders and stick to the ones who have benn doing it for decades,( because they know what they are doing when it comes to hulls), not just a couple of months or a few years. manifesto
There is another one- Bowler of shapes and hulls, since the 70's. anyway this is an interesting take on it all. Part of me says who cares. Guys are building boards and putting their own tweak on them. Templates might look the same but after riding boards from a half dozen different hull builders,including my own, I can say each was different in it's own way. What I really look for is how they feel and there is one that feels different than the rest. As for the name of board thing, that is a tad strange. Seems to me a shaper would want to create their own name and identity. el vaquero
I love this design. I love to study it. I love to surf it. I'm grateful for ALL the help and brotherhood I've received whilst on my journey. I'm gonna play the best song Journey ever performed now.
bottom line there all copys.. and all these late blooming wanna be hull guys are all clamoring..who gives a rats ass if you were the first guy to copy a board or the 50th...it makes no diffence... a copy is a copy and a kook is a kook....
cool shot. whats ns2 mean?
ReplyDeletenew shape #2
ReplyDeleteI seem to recall Dave having some B&W movies of Steve riding this board in tiny waves. You ever see those?
ReplyDeletewell, if it's a board rom the 70's how can it be a new shape?
ReplyDeleteTYPE TEMPLATE!! Tweeks in the template , foil and rocker.
ReplyDeleteLee V, Dave is holding for sure , I have a few shots of Steve on that board from Mike Brown , Lee give me a buzz when you can , catch up.
ReplyDelete..hey whats a guy gotta do tah become one of dem vaquaroses de las a olases...?
ReplyDeletenow n days not much
ReplyDeletespeaking of which KP is up in santa ynez fro annual ranch vistadores ride.booze and mayhem on horses.
ReplyDeleteel vaquero
why is it that other shapers that are making thise type of boards call there boards the same model as boards shaped and ridden over 40 years prior...(such as death board or jaws for example) seems odd and not very creative..... whats your take on this and what do your readers think.... personally i think its bullshit...
ReplyDeleteyep. total bullshit.yeah. or a "dirt" board from people who never made a board for "dirt".
ReplyDeletelet's see. prior to that hull article in the journal there were 4 people i know of making hulls.liddle, two of his former employees and friends, tony and PG, and under the guise of PG, spence. they all kind of "borrowed" from one another-the hull tribe was a smaller, tightly knit crew then- so in a way it made sense. with that said ,they all had a knack for naming boards they built but never did they "borrow" anmae from another. rather, they kept it all very individual and to the board and rider of the board.
ReplyDeletepost article it seemed a LOT of people jumped on the hull bandwagon, not only "borrowing" from the core hull shapers,their templates, ideas and seemingly board names, but trying to become the next hull maestro-overnight.(lest they forget it took 40 plus years of riding and shaping these hulls to their current refinement which they are now using to their advantage.) unreal. one youngster even claiming to be the next greenough, replicating every hull he could. to his credit he at least has unique names for his boards.
in the scheme of things, as in nature, it will be the survival of the fittest( or perhaps in this case, the most experienced). people will ride various boards and from that will weed out the pretenders and stick to the ones who have benn doing it for decades,( because they know what they are doing when it comes to hulls), not just a couple of months or a few years.
manifesto
There is another one- Bowler of shapes and hulls, since the 70's. anyway this is an interesting take on it all. Part of me says who cares. Guys are building boards and putting their own tweak on them. Templates might look the same but after riding boards from a half dozen different hull builders,including my own, I can say each was different in it's own way. What I really look for is how they feel and there is one that feels different than the rest.
ReplyDeleteAs for the name of board thing, that is a tad strange. Seems to me a shaper would want to create their own name and identity.
el vaquero
I love this design. I love to study it. I love to surf it. I'm grateful for ALL the help and brotherhood I've received whilst on my journey. I'm gonna play the best song Journey ever performed now.
ReplyDeleteVLK- diggin' the fin for sure. as for journey, which song?
ReplyDeleteel vaquero
bottom line there all copys.. and all these late blooming wanna be hull guys are all clamoring..who gives a rats ass if you were the first guy to copy a board or the 50th...it makes no diffence... a copy is a copy and a kook is a kook....
ReplyDeletewhoa! no political correctness in that statement.
ReplyDeleteel vaquero
blogger erased the last comment that was well over due.
ReplyDeletecan the anon re do it?
was needed.