Sunday, November 7, 2010


Ryan Conder on the Liddle OG Velo standup, Fat Bastard, Velo dimentions at 6'0'', the idea for this board came from Steve Hadley and Brian in Santa Cruz . They were trying to get a standup
style board like Velo.

Frame grab of Ryan Burch from the forthcoming film '' Temporal Collections....'' by Ryan Thomas, the 3 Ryans weird. Ryan loading up the single fin with the sidebites holding for less slide and more drive.

Hadley on the Fat Bastard . It's not easy to load up board and flexfin the way Greenough can on his knees, not to mention that his whole board flexed.

Greenough on Velo at Lennox Head around 66 or 67

Liddle 5'10'' Burrito Deluxe

With the input from Hadley, Brian , Jdub and a few others these are getting tuned .


  1. warmjet11/07/2010

    kp i think my pic does not fit. the others do.

  2. Anonymous11/07/2010

    You never like your pics. They look cool. Keep surfing.

  3. i love me. a lot.
    i'm just not burying it as well as the other pics.
    (course those 2 are freaks, so i'll shut it)

  4. Anonymous11/08/2010

    so is that template off a greenough spoon or made from imagination? is there some sort of connection there-between greenough and liddle? what's the deal anyway?

  5. The orange Liddle board is right off Velo just pushed to 6'0''same dims, then as we made more we pulled it in the tail just a bit and added sidebites for more drive . The connection of Greenough's designs is what Greg's boards are based on, displacement hull , flexfin combo, type surfboards to put it very simply. Look on for more info.

  6. Anonymous11/08/2010

    ok. thanks.

  7. Anonymous11/08/2010

    i checked his site. unfortunately he lives too far away. anybody on mainland(california)make a similar type board?

  8. You can order one thru me , info , I am in Westhills ,Ca.

  9. Anonymous11/09/2010

    ok. i'm fairly new to hulls and try to get info from different sources. i googled greenough and learned he doesn't ride boards anymore and he does not make them. do you have his velo to get template? if you have velo, how di you get it? do you know him? buy it from him?

  10. Anonymous11/09/2010

    Is KP a shaper? he said "we made them." Can I have kp make me one from a velo that he owns? I'm in the same boat as annonimus. I'm new to this and want to get the right thing. also y is it called a burrito..? is it stuffed with somehting, diffrent materials or?

  11. Anonymous11/09/2010

    Kirk, how different is the Burrito from the GeeBee?

  12. Anonymous11/10/2010

    Kp has been building boards in one way or another since the 70's-getting his start at yater's.(which is probably one of THE best places to learn the trade.)my suggestion is to visit his home, check out his inventory, let him tell ya a story or two, then figure out what you want and he'll get 'er done for ya.
    el vaquero

  13. Anonymous11/10/2010

    yeah, but does he know greenough? how did he get velo template? don't other shapers make same type of board?

  14. Anonymous11/10/2010

    like i said, give him a call and visit. you'll soon learn what he knows and who he knows-including greenough.

  15. Anonymous11/11/2010

    sounds to me like you should go shopping at CI.
    if you have to google greenough i see problems ahead.

  16. Anonymous11/12/2010

    speaking of CI, kp can school this person about CI as well since he was al's first employee back in the day.

  17. Anonymous11/14/2010

    Ci.really? do tell.

  18. ? and, ?.

    kid questions! I guess this should be the place for the answers tho. 40 YEARS!!!! OK???? 40!!!!!
    Watch Innermost Limits of Pure Fun. Then....

  19. Anonymous5/17/2011

    there really should be a history/safety test a la DMV before you can paddle.
    or at least at organized events like contests. i'll bet more than 50% of the ASP and 95% of the WQS do not know who George is!!!
    as someone smarter than i stated, "History Is Not A Rorschach test"!

  20. blame larid5/18/2011

    That cuz all they need to know is Tom Curren.

  21. Anonymous11/23/2012

    I don't really know much about Greenough the history and design of these boards, just like that other guy, but since i got my PG 4 months ago i've been surfing alot more and haven't ridden anything else. Been coming to swaylocks and KP's to learn more, just like that other guy.